Ford-Rangers.com Ranger Forum HomeFord-Rangers.com Ranger Forum Home
Home Recent Topics New posts Search search Menu menu Not logged in - Login | Register
Ford-Rangers.com Ranger Forum > Tech Section > How-To Section > Anyone know anything about Motorcraft BRD5 brake drums?

Ford-rangers.com is a discussion forum, a Ranger forum for people who have questions about fixing or modifying
their Ford Rangers or people who just admire their Ranger. Please join and enjoy sharing experiences!

Anyone know anything about Motorcraft BRD5 brake drums?       #: 1211
 Moderated by: NoPower, Mike69, MaDMaXX
New Topic Reply
 Rate Topic 
 Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 07:56 am
PM Quote Reply
1st Post
wh23g3g
Member
 

Joined: Sun Mar 11th, 2018
Location: Georgia USA
Posts: 105
Name: 
Occupation: 
Interests: 
Status: 
Offline
Reputation: 
Reputation Points: 140
I'm redoing the entire rear brakes on my 98 Ranger. It has 9" drums. I'm choosing all Motorcraft this time to see if they work out better than just the cheapest stuff I've been using. On Rockauto they show 2 different 9" Motorcraft brake drums. One is the BRD5 High Level Service design and they are about half the price of the standard 9" Motorcraft drums. I can't find anything about them online or even see one on ebay. So I was wondering if anyone knows what the high level service means? I've already got the brake hose, hardware kit, and brake shoes. Even the Motorcraft brake shoes are made in China. I blow through drums like every year or two no matter what. I've tried 3 or 4 different brands and always have to warranty them at least once. The longest lasting ones in recent years are the ones on there now which are Bendix but they are bouncing now. I did the brake job last time but most of the time everyone I've had touch them always over tightens them and they quickly warp.



____________________
1998 Ford Ranger XLT 2.5 4R44E Automatic - Stock
Back To Top PM Quote Reply

 Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2018 01:09 am
PM Quote Reply
2nd Post
Undrstm8ed
Seasoned...


Joined: Sat Oct 21st, 2017
Posts: 1253
Name: 
Occupation: 
Interests: Life, Experiences, and adventures.
Status: 
Offline
Reputation: 
Reputation Points: 1878
wh23g3g wrote:
I'm redoing the entire rear brakes on my 98 Ranger. It has 9" drums. I'm choosing all Motorcraft this time to see if they work out better than just the cheapest stuff I've been using. On Rockauto they show 2 different 9" Motorcraft brake drums. One is the BRD5 High Level Service design and they are about half the price of the standard 9" Motorcraft drums. I can't find anything about them online or even see one on ebay. So I was wondering if anyone knows what the high level service means? I've already got the brake hose, hardware kit, and brake shoes. Even the Motorcraft brake shoes are made in China. I blow through drums like every year or two no matter what. I've tried 3 or 4 different brands and always have to warranty them at least once. The longest lasting ones in recent years are the ones on there now which are Bendix but they are bouncing now. I did the brake job last time but most of the time everyone I've had touch them always over tightens them and they quickly warp.
After some web browsing, I think what the "High Level Service" is in references to and why the price is cheaper is and of significant note is that this reference isn't used by ford websites but is referenced in a roundabout way in a few trades articles discussing the “NEW” Motorcraft company direction.

As near as I can tell, ford is trying to recoup some of the sales lost to other aftermarket companies because in most cases, their parts are much higher priced (albeit better quality) than the competitors. Their approach is some vehicles with high mileage don't really need the full quality of Ford’s OEM spec parts. E.g. part will last 200k miles but car will never make it that far as it already has 300k on it.

If I got it right, Ford’s going to build a part that DOESN’T meet OEM specs and sell it for less using this “misleading” high level service tag to differentiate it from it’s normal OEM quality parts while charging slightly less than the ‘normal’ part.

What’s kinda disturbing is that this isn’t clearly communicated which will lead folks to unsuspectingly buy a Motorcraft part that is inferior to OEM. What a way to risk their reputation for a few bucks. Label it ‘economy’, ‘near OEM’, or something clearer and be explicit that it isn’t built to OEM specs....

So to me that makes me think those are just as junky as the all high volume Chinese crap.. Personally, I think they should stick to Crab Ragoons and General Tso's chicken.

My fist concern is more of WHY it is you go through rear brakes when they only provide 27% of the braking power on our Rangers?? I do rear brakes like once every 6 years and my trucks and cars arent driveway/garage Queens.. The cheaper the parts, the less material there or used which def deters durability and longevity issues. And are you referencing to over-tightening of the shoes against the drums? They should have very low drag on the drum so they don't lock up when asking them to perform, not free spin at all.

Usually the largest culprit of say front brake rotors is cheaper less material rotors, automatic cars, hard or aggressive driving then sitting at a light with a HOT PAD heat soaking the rotor on both sides causing warping issues. So I question the quality of parts or possibly the procedure being used; leaning more towards parts. Drums aren't hard to do.

Last edited on Sat Sep 1st, 2018 01:12 am by Undrstm8ed



____________________
"Be never first, never last and never noticed." - Unknown

"The slave is held most securely when he is held by the chains of his own will and of his own fears, and when he is locked down by his own slavish desires for a comfortable life." - Michael Bunker

"Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur" - ~ attributed to Petronius (Gaius Petronius Arbiter (ca. 27–66 AD))
Roman courtier during the reign of Nero.

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine


~ Undrstm8ed Truckumentry Write Up Pg.

~ Undrstm8ed Trailermentry Write Up Pg.
.
Back To Top PM Quote Reply

 Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2018 04:32 am
PM Quote Reply
3rd Post
wh23g3g
Member
 

Joined: Sun Mar 11th, 2018
Location: Georgia USA
Posts: 105
Name: 
Occupation: 
Interests: 
Status: 
Offline
Reputation: 
Reputation Points: 140
So that means Ford is following suit just like Chrysler and GM which both have economy factory labeled parts that are less quality. I knew something was up when I did an ignition tune up and was tired of parts failing after a year or two only to find out when I bought the new Motorcraft coils they were made in China too. As far as my rear drums tearing up so much. I'm not sure why. Probably to do both with cheap parts and unskilled mechanics. The only time they lasted the longest was in fact when I did it myself and took my time. Although I still was using the same inferior parts. I bought store brand brake shoes which are warrantied and I had drums warrantied too. Except the last time I decided to try a different brand so I went to Summit and bought some Bendix brake drums since I thought they were a quality brand. I got 2 or 3 years before they warped. That's what I'm trying to cure now. Usually when I had someone else do the rear brakes it was in the shop for another reason so I just got it over with. Now I have less time to keep my truck down for repairs since I work overnight so I've been taking my truck to a shop that I know can do it right. What's always happened is that whoever I had doing the brakes has over tightened the shoes against the drums. One time the idiots tightened them so much I had to stop and use something to back them off to get home. They were trash the next day. Bouncing all over the place. I'm trying to buy all Motorcraft this time to see if it makes a difference in the longevity. So I'll get the regular Motorcraft drums, shoes, hardware, adjusters, brake hose, wheel cylinders. I've got half of it now. I haven't once had a problem with the cheaper front rotors or pads. I've never had a front brake problem and I'm still on the original calipers with 385,000 miles. They don't pull at all when stopping, never a vibration out of them either. But I always do my own front brakes everytime, the full brake job not just pads. I might redo the front since it's getting some years on it.



____________________
1998 Ford Ranger XLT 2.5 4R44E Automatic - Stock
Back To Top PM Quote Reply

Current time is 06:19 am Top  

Ford-Rangers.com Ranger Forum > Tech Section > How-To Section > Anyone know anything about Motorcraft BRD5 brake drums?

Users viewing this topic



© 2007-2020 Chris -N- Jim
Page processed in 0.1803 seconds (13% database + 87% PHP). 44 queries executed.